I am returning these and trying a half size larger and a WW wide. In all fairness, this shoe had to be miss marked. I ordered a 6 W and the shoe was a full inch or more shorter than all my other size 6.I had ordered another shoe at the same time and both came together in the shipment and the other shoe box was much longer than this shoe box. I knew something wasn't right. I normally would wear M wide, but reading other reviews I thought I should order a W. There was no way I could even get my foot into this 6 W, it was very narrow. So I think it had to be miss marked.
I felt this product's fit was
Fits full size smaller
I felt this product's width was